300 win mag vs 300 weatherby vs 300 ultra mag

Home / Product Caliber / 300 Win. The .300 WBY brass is a go from the start. Head to Head: .300 Win. I prefer the .300 Win.Mag. With 67.5 gr of RL17 and 180 E-Tips I can get an honest 3200 fps in the WSM. That power comes at the expense of lots of recoil though. Instead it's the WSM, Ackley and the WBY mags. i own one each 300win 300 wsm, 300 wby and 300 ultra and if i could keep only one it would be the 300wby. Participant. .300 Win Mag is a magnum rifle cartridge that was introduced by Winchester in 1953. History Based on the .300 H&H case blown out to maximum capacity, the .300 Weatherby Magnum was introduced by Roy Weatherby in 1944. vs. .300 WSM. It is also one of the most popular rounds for reloading, due to the number of projectiles and amount of brass available. Mag. Mag… The roy and 300 wsm are great rounds but I'll take my 300 win(long) and 300 rum all day, any day. for ballistics wise the 300. weatherby mag out performs them, then the 300. win mag and then the 30-06. Why? I was going to rebarrel the RUM but it shoots .5 MOA at 200yds so why change it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I really love my 300 win(long) in my browning a-bolt, but the rum has around a 10% edge in raw power and if you can learn the rifle well enough it'll punch 1" groups at 200 yards all day in a non-braked sporter. Barrel wise the Weatherby and it's clones are by far the best. (which you can read all about on this 7mm vs. 300 Win. It’s got class, panache, and performance in spades, and is actually the oldest veteran in this group. That said, RL17 is the only powder you'll come close to 3200 fps with a 180 bullet in the WSM. The .300 Winchester Magnum—that belted affair based on a shortened Holland and Holland case—was released in 1963 as the last in a quartet of cartridges that redefined magnum performance to … 3,814 Posts . However, like the .300 Win. A bag of .300 Win.MAG IS 40 BUCKS but you only get a box of 20 for that in the Weatherby. Just picked up some 230 bergers for the 300 Rum . Joined Dec 30, 2014 Messages 3,617. gun). You are using an out of date browser. Of the 3 rifles, the Sendero is definitely the best LR platform. It was originally introduced in 1906, and was originally used in the United States Army. I'll throw the .300 WSM in for good measure. All three are awesome rounds in their own right. On game performance is impressive with either one! More. There is nothing wrong with the 300 Weatherby eather but it is in between the WSM and the RUM. Base of the Bluemountains aka Gods Country, http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f25/nib-ss-sub-moa-weatherby-vanguard-300-wby-mag-110594/, Killing Elk out to 1000 yards with a 300 WM, Day pack with ability to pack animal out/convert to backcountry backpack, I think I just built my favorite hunting rifle. The ? The parent cartridge of .300 Win Mag is .375 H&H Magnum. Cost of ammo is quite a bit cheaper. Mag. I wouldn't consider any of the three, but head strait to a .300 WBY mag, or a .300 Ackley. I also read some where that the .300 Win. 300 Win Mag vs 308 . But for new hunters: 308, every damn day of the week. The ultra mag beside burning a bunch more powder has the issue of the T.P. I have shot all three and a Browning for LR use wouldn't make "my" list of consideration. So, the .300 Win Mag is much more powerful, has a much flatter trajectory, and has significantly more recoil than the .308. blog) by 20 percent. Mag. Plus they have by far the best shoulder neck design (throw the WSM in that mix as well). I’d go with the .300 Wby as a fellow handloader you know you can taylor a load to fit your needs. My wife shoots a 300 ultra lss ( no brake ) and 180 Coreloks . However, it is also worth mentioning that there are a much greater number of .300 Win Mag ammunition choices available. This monster has 20% more powder capacity than the .300 Win. and I love it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Posts: 24. I have loaded for both the WSM and RUM. Selection of .300 Win.Mag. Which of these calibers would be the better round? So a .300 Weatherby Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 4070 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .300 Winchester Magnum round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 3520 pounds over the same one foot distance. The .300 Win Mag rounds have an average of 80.0lb/f.s while the .300 Win Mag has an average of 77.12lb/f.s. All the Critters dont seem to care what we shoot they just seem to drop ! Sendero. Still you could make Norma cases out of Win mag brass! Discussion Starter • #1 • May 3, 2012. my question is other than shooting a larger caliber bullet what dose the 8mm offer over the 300? A. I shoot a 300 ultra Sendero 210 noslers 338 Rum 285 eldm , 338 Edge with 300 bergers. Please consider publishing a comparison of the 6.5–300 WBY with the 300 Win Mag. Nothing wrong at all with the 300 Wby, 300 Ackley or 300 Jarrett but I think he is looking to get into a factory rifle first so that eliminates all but the 300 Wby. Can be done but the outcome can be tricky compared to rebuilding a Remington 700. The .300 Ultra has a rebated rim that allows the body of the case to be fatter than the rim, which is the same size as the rim on the .300 Winchester Magnum and … While I don’t have access to the official sales numbers, according to Weatherby, Roy’s .300 Weatherby Magnum is the most popular of the bunch. You must log in or register to reply here. Mar 10, 2018 #10 W. wind gypsy Senior Member. While some of the more modern cartridges have begun to outperform .300 Win Mag, it has retained its popularity because of the number of available weapons and how affordable the ammunition is. SUBSCRIBE. I'd go with a .308 Norma mag, or an 8mm Remington mag case necked down to .308 to give me something very close to a .300 Ackley; which by far is the best of all the big three hundred mags. You can not go wrong with any of them. 300 Ultra Mag vs 300 Win Mag. jaymon. With the advent of newer slower burning powders, the 300 win, 300 wby and 300 rum really aren't that far apart with the slight edge going to the 300 rum with very heavy bullets. That being said, I have a rum that is a semi custom gun with a factory tube and it is very easy to load for and easy to shoot. Long range hunters and experienced hunters taking Elk and Moose at longer ranges may appreciate and require the better terminal performance of the 300 Win Mag. now what we see here is that when the barrel lengths are somewhat close to being equal the only thing that's happening is making Hogdons and AA richer! 300.wsm vs. 300 rem ultra mag. If the Ultra mag was a great round we'd see it in use at the 1000 yard meets. If you have a long action the 300 Ultra Mag would be my choice. Mag 300 Win. The .300 Win Mag might be inferior in performance and power to the .300 Weatherby Magnum and Remington Ultra Magnum, but it is still certainly capable of bringing down elk, moose, bear, and bighorn sheep. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … I am kicking around the idea of a long range rifle in a Browning X-Bolt Long Range Hunter carbon fiber in 300 Win or Remington Sendero II in 300 Rum or a 30-378 Weatherby in a Mark V Carbon fiber. 30 gr more powder for an additional 200 FPS. Same could be said of the .300WSM. In the Federal Vital-Shok, 6.5 Creedmor works out to $1.72/round, while .300 Win Mag comes out to $2.40/round. Showing 1–16 of 24 results ... Mark V® Ultra Lightweight. IDO » Community » Forums » Hunting Forums » Shooter’s Test Bench ».300 Win Mag vs 300 Weatherby Mag.300 Win Mag vs 300 Weatherby Mag. The difference between the two averages remains just about constant as the rounds move downrange to the 500-yard mark where the averages for the WM and WSM are 58.2lb/f.s and 22.3lb/f.s respectively. Meaning a short throat life. If you have never, or just occasionally, shot any one of the 'pound o' powder' burnin' 300 mags(300 WBY, 300 WIN, 300 Ultra Mag) you are in for a real treat. Maybe if you had a 34" barrel you might pick up 250 to 300fps, but you'll also need a number one gun bearer to carry that thing! If you seeking special discount you may need to searching when special time come or holidays. I have tested, owned, built and shot many 7 rem mags, 7mm-300 win mags, a few 7 stw's, a 7 RUM or two and others in the .284 family. The Ackley and Jarrett can easily be formed from either necking up 7mm STW brass, or necking down 8mm mag brass. I love my .300rum but if my limit was 700yds I would consider the wsm due to the availability of better quality brass. My 300 Ultra is getting 400 FPS over the Win Mag with 20 grains more powder. The .300 WSM is fast, along the lines of the .300H&H, maybe a tad faster. It also has a 28" tube . point out on the lip of the case. The Contestants. But once again I'd start with a .300WSM, or do a low free bore chamber in the WBY (all will have free bore in a factory barrel!). is very impressive. When I decided to get a .300 I thought it would be a Win. have long felt that the order should be .300WSM, .308 Norma mag, and then the .300 WBY mag. dont own a 30-378 but do own a 300 ultra, 300 win, 300wsm a 300 h&h and a 300 wby and out of the 5 if i had to pick a favorite it would be the 300 wby mag. JavaScript is disabled. What we see is very diminishing returns for as much as 33% more powder in the big cased mags. The .300 Ultra Mag can fire the same weight bullet approximately 200-300fps faster than the .300 Win Mag. Mag. When comparing a standard .300 WSM vs .300 Win Mag, it was proved that the .300 win magnum had a higher recoil but could deliver bullets at a very high speed. Yes, you are right about the beauty of the 300 win mag, it was an ill design by winchester in the 60,s. August 9, 2017 at 12:06 am #1709134. Before getting into the comparison, we will talk very briefly about the history of the two rounds. It may not display this or other websites correctly. JavaScript is disabled. Remington produced the 300 Win Mag in 1999 and this is also the first cartridge of the 30-caliber The 300 WSM will be the easiest to find ammo for. Another vote for the RUM....Go with the non-belted case, just seems a bit more 21st century. I am a traveling madical technologist and would like to purchase a rifle that may cover a variety of wild game across the U.S. 300 Win Mag vs 30-06 I have been really happy with both. Mostly for sheep, deer and elk. Mag. my choice would be the .300 Weatherby seven days a week and twice on Sunday. is preference and range. Thanks for the great side-by-side comparison, David. by Philip Massaro - Friday, March 9, 2018. The .300 Ackley, .300 Jarrett, and even the Baer are all WBY mag clones in the end. It is my little gun and usually gets the call for antelope, but my 338 rum is my go to gun and the 300 rum is my backup. The .300 WBY, .300 Ackley mag, or the Jarrett are the best in case design, but starting to show some serious overbore unless you move up to the 220 thru 250 grain bullets and a 28" barrel. I am looking for a powerfull, flat shooting rifle that will be able to cover a variety of situations and wild game. Just my .02. The short action Remington looks to be a fairly good case design, and also very efficient. Get a stainless model rifle. Still if your somebody like Dan Lilja (a fine gentleman I might add) this means little. Velocity Any thoughts. and 13% more capacity than the .300 Weatherby Mag. It w… The .300 Win Mag can shoot heavier bullets at a much higher velocity than the .308 (~400fps faster with the same weight bullet). Of the 3 cartridges, I would pick the RUM for long range work for reasons already stated. Lots of recoil, if that is a factor for you, lots of noise, lots of cost... and the majority of people shooting these big 300's don't 'really' need one. The .300 Ultra Mag is known for lots of power along with minimal bullet drop and wind drift at extended range. I have a sendero II in 7mm rem. You must log in or register to reply here. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .300 Weatherby Magnum vs .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum ammo rounds. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 300 ? .30-06 is an extremely old round. 300 Win Mag vs 308. they are the 300 Ultra Mag, 300 Weatherby and the 300 WSM. For me it would. With 98 gr of Retumbo and 180 E-Tips I can get 3400 fps. The .300 Win Mag works best with bullets of 168 - 200 grains , and will shoot heavier. As you can see, 6.5 Creedmoor is generally much cheaper than .300 Win Mag. It was for this reason that I purchased the Weatherby Mark V 6.5-300. Its in 300RUM, I love it as well. Although the case design of the Weatherby was entirely different from the .300 H&H, enabling head spacing at the shoulder, Weatherby retained the belt at the case head, resulting in a very successful marketing ploy. If You want/have a short action the WSM would be the way to go. waldo, WI. Also have a Rem. by 13 percent and the Win. Merely from the stand point of power. It hurts a bit to write this particular comparison, because I’m really partial to the .300 WBY. It was made for short action rifles in hunting conditions, to make a rifle shorter and handier, as well as lighter. The sendero will do the same. I'd imagine my 230 Berger Norma load is somewhere closer to 120 fps and 10 grains more powder than a WM with same bullet and powder. It was found that when comparing a .30-30 vs .30-06 cartridge, the former had more recoil than the latter. 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